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Comments on: May you live long, but not here http://www.beta.frontlineclub.com/may_you_live_long_but_not_here_1/ Championing Independent Journalism Sun, 10 May 2009 08:38:13 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Eric Ellis http://www.beta.frontlineclub.com/may_you_live_long_but_not_here_1/#comment-1798 Sun, 10 May 2009 08:38:13 +0000 http://www.beta.frontlineclub.com/dev/may_you_live_long_but_not_here_1/#comment-1798 Well put, Morten!…..
“Try for a moment to consider us a necessary evil. We try to cover conflicts because without us there would be only propaganda. Hence our suspicion when one or all sides declare that they have nothing to hide, but hide it anyway. And hence our fear of getting it wrong. We often work with stories about life and death. Getting it right can on rare occasions mean life rather than death. Unfortunately, as you indicate: in Sri Lanka we’re mostly not getting it at all.”…….

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By: Peter Duleu http://www.beta.frontlineclub.com/may_you_live_long_but_not_here_1/#comment-1797 Fri, 08 May 2009 18:55:41 +0000 http://www.beta.frontlineclub.com/dev/may_you_live_long_but_not_here_1/#comment-1797 Ohoho… labeled indi – will you take a bite? you see – without MH you are just propaganda. Why not to invite Morten to continue this discussion inside YOUR blog? He is after a shank of your readership.
And leave us here with more wonderful suggestive erotic pix,please. Pity my comment was deleted!

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By: Anonymous http://www.beta.frontlineclub.com/may_you_live_long_but_not_here_1/#comment-1796 Fri, 08 May 2009 12:46:40 +0000 http://www.beta.frontlineclub.com/dev/may_you_live_long_but_not_here_1/#comment-1796 Indi,
It goes without saying that all coverage of people who are suffering should start with respect. I think you would find it difficult to find examples of me being disrespectful towards anyone victimised by the conflict here, or indeed conflict, disaster or poverty anywhere.
Of course Sri Lankans are the ones who should sort Sri Lanka out. I don’t recall suggesting otherwise. Sri Lankans have created, and sustained, this murderous mess for decades, and it is high time they fixed it.
Whether or not Sri Lankans are stupid or callous as a people is obviously not for me to judge. So I won’t. Chances are they’re about the same as everyone else, including the good people of Zimbabwe and Norway. I am however a little surprised by your authoritative conclusion that “This is not Zimbabwe”, and that the comparison is a quick condemnation of Sri Lanka. What do you base that conclusion on? Have you lived and worked in Zimbabwe? Surely, you’re not judging an entire African nation based on what you learn from the transitory tourist foreign media?
Try for a moment to consider us a necessary evil. We try to cover conflicts because without us there would be only propaganda. Hence our suspicion when one or all sides declare that they have nothing to hide, but hide it anyway. And hence our fear of getting it wrong. We often work with stories about life and death. Getting it right can on rare occasions mean life rather than death. Unfortunately, as you indicate: in Sri Lanka we’re mostly not getting it at all.

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By: Kiraja El Sumal http://www.beta.frontlineclub.com/may_you_live_long_but_not_here_1/#comment-1795 Fri, 08 May 2009 05:37:17 +0000 http://www.beta.frontlineclub.com/dev/may_you_live_long_but_not_here_1/#comment-1795 s done by putting down all SL state officers. Unkind generalization in Miss Bergman style. As for Tamils/Tigers in SL they are subjected to local genocide. They are spitting bowls, garbage cleaners. Never saw in Colombo piles of trash on their doorsteps? It’s tragic. More tragic is my observation that civil conflicts mostly cannot be helped from outside. And not a lot West can do, especially after the way of ‘helping’ in Iraq and Afghanistan. Sadly, Westerners more than others are very good at helping, when it comes to help WESTselves. Humans are like that, but West transformed survival instinct into main political principle. It is just never enough for us - we want more land, more oil, more gold, more fame, more attention. Like our Mr Hvaal here. Great example of grabbing everything best of what SL has to offer, and doing good job to discredit white man’s reputation further. You know what his last thing is? He gives diving lessons to local ladies and then writes on Twitter: ‘baptized another mermaid’. Most of them are Theravada, some Muslims, some Christians. How more insensitive can one be to a surrounding culture? I have done better traffic job here than poor Miss Bergman. But knowing life - how can you know I am not Mr Hvaal’s brother or his new gorgeous black-skin fiancée? I am for sure not his paid traffic generator though, as Mr Hvaal’s has debts bigger than his ego, and it’s awesome! Why do you think he is in SL on a first place? Cheap place to live. I rest my case. ]]> Dear Mr Duleu. May I reject your compliment. It’s done by putting down all SL state officers. Unkind generalization in Miss Bergman style.
As for Tamils/Tigers in SL they are subjected to local genocide. They are spitting bowls, garbage cleaners. Never saw in Colombo piles of trash on their doorsteps? It’s tragic.
More tragic is my observation that civil conflicts mostly cannot be helped from outside. And not a lot West can do, especially after the way of ‘helping’ in Iraq and Afghanistan. Sadly, Westerners more than others are very good at helping, when it comes to help WESTselves. Humans are like that, but West transformed survival instinct into main political principle. It is just never enough for us – we want more land, more oil, more gold, more fame, more attention. Like our Mr Hvaal here. Great example of grabbing everything best of what SL has to offer, and doing good job to discredit white man’s reputation further. You know what his last thing is? He gives diving lessons to local ladies and then writes on Twitter: ‘baptized another mermaid’. Most of them are Theravada, some Muslims, some Christians. How more insensitive can one be to a surrounding culture?
I have done better traffic job here than poor Miss Bergman. But knowing life – how can you know I am not Mr Hvaal’s brother or his new gorgeous black-skin fiancée? I am for sure not his paid traffic generator though, as Mr Hvaal’s has debts bigger than his ego, and it’s awesome! Why do you think he is in SL on a first place? Cheap place to live.
I rest my case.

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By: indi http://www.beta.frontlineclub.com/may_you_live_long_but_not_here_1/#comment-1794 Thu, 07 May 2009 17:54:09 +0000 http://www.beta.frontlineclub.com/dev/may_you_live_long_but_not_here_1/#comment-1794 @Helen @Richard
This is not Zimbabwe. I wish you wouldn’t be so quick to condemn us.
Sri Lanka is obviously a mess, but our democracy is still alive after two Sinhala insurrections and sustaining the most suicide bombings in the world (among other things) for my entire lifetime. We had elections last week. My guy lost but I’ll work with him and we’ll try again.
It is important to understand most Sri Lankans feel like our lives can begin once we defeat the LTTE. This current crisis is manufactured by them to play on western emotions like the above, to condemn Sri Lanka outright without giving us a chance. I know the government sucks. It’s still my government. I don’t think it’s especially probable, but we still have a chance.
I say manufactured because those few kilometres in Mullativu are not inhabited by 50,000 or even 150,000 people. The entire population of the district is 220,000, Cities like Kandy and Galle are 100-150k. The LTTE herded human beings as a human shield. We need to condemn them and help our feeble government deal with the human fallout of this despicable act.
Unless the West wants to come in and occupy and somehow fix us, Sri Lankans do have to fix ourselves. Our nation and, yes, our government deserve a chance.

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By: Anonymous http://www.beta.frontlineclub.com/may_you_live_long_but_not_here_1/#comment-1793 Thu, 07 May 2009 14:36:39 +0000 http://www.beta.frontlineclub.com/dev/may_you_live_long_but_not_here_1/#comment-1793 For the record: I just found Indi’s prompt comment in the spambox and posted it at the top where it belongs chronologically. I’d like to apologise for the unintended temporary censorship, and thank Indi for commenting. I value his opinions.

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By: Azi Za http://www.beta.frontlineclub.com/may_you_live_long_but_not_here_1/#comment-1792 Wed, 06 May 2009 14:54:36 +0000 http://www.beta.frontlineclub.com/dev/may_you_live_long_but_not_here_1/#comment-1792 I must admit, Kiraja’s supportive url for “SL erotic photography” was a bit disappointing.
It only shows the great talent of the photographer and the true beauty of the object… But where is the promised
“erotic” part???
Are the candles and dim light enough to call it “erotic” and worth thousands of men awaiting for more???
Oh, I pity you and those thousands of men you know, Kiraja!
But, please, do show us more evidence or facts. It really keeps many well informed of how the truth is being established and spread here…
Kiraja, being a bit fair to the blogger, lets keep his “kitchen” and “bedroom” alone…There are many other places Morten Hvaal has shown his other remarkable talents, just google it and you will see yourself…
Look forward to see Peter Duleu’s questions answered.

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By: Peter Duleu http://www.beta.frontlineclub.com/may_you_live_long_but_not_here_1/#comment-1791 Wed, 06 May 2009 06:05:23 +0000 http://www.beta.frontlineclub.com/dev/may_you_live_long_but_not_here_1/#comment-1791 Dear Kiraja. Unexpectedly I found myself waiting to read your posts. I am not sure what is the magic, but it is there. People here are too suggestive about you and you offer no feedback. I still cannot decide are you a man or a woman? What nationality are you? I am sure you are not SL government official; none of them are bright enough. What are your views on Tigers if any?

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By: Kiraja El Sumal http://www.beta.frontlineclub.com/may_you_live_long_but_not_here_1/#comment-1790 Wed, 06 May 2009 05:00:23 +0000 http://www.beta.frontlineclub.com/dev/may_you_live_long_but_not_here_1/#comment-1790 s new blog by providing friends-induced fake traffic, aren’t you? Not a lot of a respect for sucked-in readers, who may follow this prearranged in your kitchen or bedroom ‘discussion', I would say. But who am I? You are the one - white European! - who will tailor rules for the world. According to your needs. You are right about my anger though. I am seriously crossed with Mr. Hvaal. He just started to indulge us in pushing SL erotic photography up to a new level. Thousands of men await more. And here he goes back to politics, scowling-howling how he was insulted by the old man on a street in Colombo. Paint your skin dark, Mr Hvaal and have a stroll in Oslo downtown. Report back! <a href="http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1497176&id=28493767793" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1497176&id=28493767793</a> ]]> Dear Miss Bergman. Thank you kindly for patronizing reprimand!
You left your first comment here to support Mr Hvaal’s new blog by providing friends-induced fake traffic, aren’t you? Not a lot of a respect for sucked-in readers, who may follow this prearranged in your kitchen or bedroom ‘discussion’, I would say. But who am I? You are the one – white European! – who will tailor rules for the world. According to your needs.
You are right about my anger though.
I am seriously crossed with Mr. Hvaal. He just started to indulge us in pushing SL erotic photography up to a new level. Thousands of men await more. And here he goes back to politics, scowling-howling how he was insulted by the old man on a street in Colombo. Paint your skin dark, Mr Hvaal and have a stroll in Oslo downtown. Report back!
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1497176&id=28493767793

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By: Vikum http://www.beta.frontlineclub.com/may_you_live_long_but_not_here_1/#comment-1789 Wed, 06 May 2009 04:04:33 +0000 http://www.beta.frontlineclub.com/dev/may_you_live_long_but_not_here_1/#comment-1789 It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to heaven, we were all going direct the other way – in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only.
Charles Dickens, A Tale of Two Cities
English novelist (1812 – 1870)

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